I've just come back from my friends who speaks fluent French as his son married a Frenchie and he's always over there and has learned to read & write the lingo for the past 20 years so he can chat with the grandkids, and he says the English Karman Armybook is correct in it's translation. It's all to do with the grammer, i.e. their language is a f&%ked up as ours! He mentioned that the phrase ... Unité de fantassins ... can stand for ... "Infantry Unit", but it also has other translations, i.e. "Foot", "Infantrymen" & "Foot Soldiers".

So which one to use ...

Looking at the rest of the French Karman Armybook, he pointed out that the other Karman factions have clearly defined what "Units of Infantry" are written as ... Unité d’infanterie ... so why would they use anything different in the main Karman Army. He says to define "Soldiers" in our case. So, soz Banksi, I'm back agreeing with zellak that your main Karman faction should have "Soldiers" and the Open R-Tool is wrong!

I also don't believe we should be adding in rules as well, like the "Jump System" ruling of old that only INF can use it. Keep things simple and play the rules as their written. Adding in these rules doesn't bring anything to the game ... imho of course ... Walts

But we now know that our interpretation was wrong, and that all "fighters" (ie Striders, AFV & Inf) can have the ability as a company. Core to all the rules is that it's a game of fantasy! Because this ability was tweaked, Therians have no way of "flying" their troop carrier around the battlefield, so it's a major disadvantage to them. This is my problem with all the tweaks floating about ... they all have unwanted effects on specific armies, factions or units in some way.

So ...are we now allowed to search the German and French books for other translations?

In order to find more advantages for our armies.

OOOOOOh fun !

NOT

It's that sort of childish attitude that can get you checked around here, thats my domain sonny ....your still not up to speed yet a couple of youtube links will sort that out

Everyone gets support units and the oni dont get to pick what they want (as I would imagine that a sniper is better than a laser), since the mercs are the same as the una then they should have the same support as the una, thats fair.

1. We go back to the statement - "Karman Core platoon cannot take support units" and use this rule.

2. We do not force anyone to use only Core platoons during any campaign.

(if you feel that a certain restriction will limit your chance of winning to such a degree that is unacceptable....and winning is the main reason to take part.....then there is no reason to take part. )

I believe that All the base core lists are evenly matched.

Soz Gerry, but what was the ruling again? I've got a little bit confused with what's current and who's playing what, and I play the game! I can see why no-one else wants to join in with our rules constantly changing!!!

I thought no-one was going to post online anymore?! I didn't start the bandwagon that everyone joined in, so I think we're all guilty as charged.

Walts,

it's in the Umpire Rulings under Jump Rules

Cheers ... Gerry

Walts,

Who said that because I know I certainly didn't ?? Think you need to clarify that statement with the actual facts before making such a broad and sweeping statement and branding everyone as guilty!

Cheers ... Gerry

Found it! ... http://www.northayrshirewargamesclub.co.uk/forum/21-227-1

Not really sure what this tweak brings to the game? As it's a game of fantasy, what's so hard to imagine Striders "jumping" on top of containers? As too crossing various difficult terrain (crevasse, water, etc), the Frostbite rules are pretty clear (P14) ... "A fighter can jump over a crevasse. His movement is then halved." ... so why complicated things?

This is exactly the problem in general!? Everyone seems to be on different pages about everything. I've obviously assumed everyone was on the same book about posting and that all discussions where to be at the club?! So when posting cropped up, I assumed it was a free for all as the player isn't in the new campaign? confused.com is an understatement!

The understairs forums give a much better platform for getting an unbiased response to questions because most of the key members have two, three or four armies

Look for clarity in the Errata's and the main books, including the Frenchies.

Besides, I promise to be nice as well ... It will be interesting to see how long I last at that!

Give me a week and I'll have forgotten that ruling, even though I've made it!!!

Everyone gets support units and the oni dont get to pick what they want (as I would imagine that a sniper is better than a laser), since the mercs are the same as the una then they should have the same support as the una, thats fair.

Walter, you haven't answered my question Could you please do that?

You make assumptions Walts without getting the facts, and I would remind you that you stated that you wouldn't be making any comment or taking any part in any discussions regarding AT-43. I'm happy to post a copy of your email to remind you of that if you've forgotten what you originally wrote.

Soz Gerry, but I got bored and decided to change my mind, just like the rules in AT-43! I should really write things down as I'm always forgeting what page I'm on, let alone what everyone else has said ... Walts